1 00:00:06,590 --> 00:00:04,610 on the Dark Matter radio network hi this 2 00:00:13,390 --> 00:00:06,600 is Rob Reiner from anvil and you're 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:27,080 Church radio 4 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:30,290 all right we're back this is fade to 5 00:00:36,799 --> 00:00:33,810 black today is Friday December 27 2013 6 00:00:39,049 --> 00:00:36,809 it is just two days after Christmas I 7 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:39,059 hope everybody had a great holiday so 8 00:00:43,610 --> 00:00:42,090 far we are live from the Jaypee 9 00:00:46,310 --> 00:00:43,620 Motorsports studios right here in 10 00:00:48,110 --> 00:00:46,320 Burbank California for kjc are in the 11 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:48,120 dark matter radio network I am your host 12 00:00:52,670 --> 00:00:49,650 Jimmy Church and I do want to thank 13 00:00:54,710 --> 00:00:52,680 Robert Salas for coming in his time is 14 00:00:56,390 --> 00:00:54,720 precious and just let me say he doesn't 15 00:01:00,500 --> 00:00:56,400 do that 16 00:01:02,569 --> 00:01:00,510 what we just did often if ever and it 17 00:01:04,850 --> 00:01:02,579 was a it was a coup d'etat to get him in 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:04,860 here and I really appreciate his time 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:08,250 it's a fantastic story you can follow us 20 00:01:12,530 --> 00:01:10,130 on Twitter or Facebook YouTube 21 00:01:13,130 --> 00:01:12,540 everything is fade to black fade to 22 00:01:18,830 --> 00:01:13,140 black 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:18,840 the way like our Facebook fan page which 24 00:01:24,529 --> 00:01:22,770 is Jimmy Church radio.com go like us we 25 00:01:25,910 --> 00:01:24,539 keep everything updated over there if 26 00:01:28,430 --> 00:01:25,920 you've got anything you need to say you 27 00:01:30,260 --> 00:01:28,440 can certainly do it there anything 28 00:01:32,180 --> 00:01:30,270 interesting you can post it I will 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:32,190 certainly talk about it you can also 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:35,610 email your thoughts to me personally and 31 00:01:40,609 --> 00:01:38,250 I will get to all of them eventually I 32 00:01:43,699 --> 00:01:40,619 might even write back you can write me a 33 00:01:46,249 --> 00:01:43,709 Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio.com I tried 34 00:01:48,020 --> 00:01:46,259 to read them all and everything has been 35 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:48,030 positive over the last week and thank 36 00:01:55,130 --> 00:01:51,050 you for that great feedback on the show 37 00:01:57,529 --> 00:01:55,140 okay now bumper music i do want to thank 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:01:57,539 doug aldrich for that and we won't be 39 00:02:02,150 --> 00:01:59,610 thanking him too much in the future but 40 00:02:06,020 --> 00:02:02,160 it's exciting to hear Doug's music here 41 00:02:09,529 --> 00:02:06,030 on the show okay I want to jump into a 42 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:09,539 subject that is near and dear to me 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:14,000 which is time travel and specifically 44 00:02:22,550 --> 00:02:19,050 John Titor now last month in November 45 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:22,560 actually last month was the 13 year 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:26,640 anniversary of his appearance on the 47 00:02:33,470 --> 00:02:29,250 Internet and for all of this 48 00:02:36,679 --> 00:02:33,480 back then it was it was an event now a 49 00:02:39,410 --> 00:02:36,689 few things have happened like that on 50 00:02:41,150 --> 00:02:39,420 the internet stories that proliferated 51 00:02:43,699 --> 00:02:41,160 on the Internet 52 00:02:47,479 --> 00:02:43,709 a few things a few stories have happened 53 00:02:51,619 --> 00:02:47,489 and certainly you know going way back to 54 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:51,629 the USA computer hoax that was an 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:55,050 incredible and for all of you veterans 56 00:03:01,100 --> 00:02:57,330 out there they just went whoa Jimmy nice 57 00:03:05,449 --> 00:03:01,110 one the USA computer we've got to visit 58 00:03:10,190 --> 00:03:05,459 that story on a future show but John 59 00:03:14,569 --> 00:03:10,200 Titor the way that he appeared back then 60 00:03:17,479 --> 00:03:14,579 and it was in November of 2000 the way 61 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:17,489 that he appeared back then I was all 62 00:03:26,780 --> 00:03:24,110 over art bells forums back then and 63 00:03:28,910 --> 00:03:26,790 participating and reading and suddenly 64 00:03:32,589 --> 00:03:28,920 this guy shows up his name was time 65 00:03:36,229 --> 00:03:32,599 travel underscore zero time travel zero 66 00:03:39,259 --> 00:03:36,239 starts posting on the internet now on 67 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:39,269 art bells forms and we thought at the 68 00:03:46,340 --> 00:03:42,690 time everybody that this was his first 69 00:03:49,449 --> 00:03:46,350 appearance and I'll talk about his 70 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:49,459 actual first appearance and in a bit but 71 00:03:58,099 --> 00:03:53,910 it was a fascinating story and I'm 72 00:04:00,830 --> 00:03:58,109 reading I couldn't wait to sign on and 73 00:04:03,349 --> 00:04:00,840 get over to the forums to see what was 74 00:04:06,379 --> 00:04:03,359 happening next with John Titor okay so 75 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:06,389 for everybody out there that this story 76 00:04:11,690 --> 00:04:07,970 is new to you 77 00:04:15,770 --> 00:04:11,700 John Titor claimed that he was a time 78 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:15,780 traveler from the Year 2036 and he was 79 00:04:23,629 --> 00:04:19,289 back now well then we're talking about 80 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:23,639 time travel now is now then as then in 81 00:04:31,159 --> 00:04:28,410 2000 he he was doing a drive-by and he 82 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:31,169 stuck around for around four months and 83 00:04:40,810 --> 00:04:36,690 then disappeared he has never been heard 84 00:04:43,820 --> 00:04:40,820 from since and this is the thing for me 85 00:04:49,219 --> 00:04:43,830 well for everybody that knows about the 86 00:04:52,250 --> 00:04:49,229 John Titor story if it was a hoax it's 87 00:04:53,909 --> 00:04:52,260 possible that it was if it was a hoax it 88 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:53,919 has never been 89 00:05:01,580 --> 00:04:57,930 disproven or proven nobody has ever 90 00:05:03,450 --> 00:05:01,590 found out and all of the investigations 91 00:05:07,619 --> 00:05:03,460 who John Titor 92 00:05:11,550 --> 00:05:07,629 was or who the hoaxer was and that is 93 00:05:13,439 --> 00:05:11,560 the part of the story that well the 94 00:05:16,649 --> 00:05:13,449 credibility issue I mean it's time 95 00:05:20,029 --> 00:05:16,659 travel and it is it is out there I get 96 00:05:23,219 --> 00:05:20,039 that but normally you can uncover 97 00:05:25,499 --> 00:05:23,229 something and then it's all blown out of 98 00:05:28,499 --> 00:05:25,509 the water and and it's always just a 99 00:05:32,059 --> 00:05:28,509 hoax okay cool all right we get it but 100 00:05:35,309 --> 00:05:32,069 it has never been uncovered the story 101 00:05:37,890 --> 00:05:35,319 just has lingered and lingered and 102 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:37,900 lingered on the internet for those of 103 00:05:42,950 --> 00:05:38,800 you that are new 104 00:05:45,929 --> 00:05:42,960 you can Google John Titor and have 105 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:45,939 literally thousands if not maybe a 106 00:05:52,980 --> 00:05:50,050 hundred thousand responses and areas to 107 00:05:56,909 --> 00:05:52,990 go to there are plenty of videos on 108 00:06:00,149 --> 00:05:56,919 YouTube on on the subject but the thing 109 00:06:06,329 --> 00:06:00,159 is with John Titor and this story is 110 00:06:10,559 --> 00:06:06,339 that it seems to be true I want it to be 111 00:06:14,119 --> 00:06:10,569 true he what he freely okay this all 112 00:06:18,540 --> 00:06:14,129 started in like I said November 2000 and 113 00:06:22,139 --> 00:06:18,550 he was posting publicly and he posted 114 00:06:26,369 --> 00:06:22,149 pictures and he also yeah pictures and 115 00:06:28,889 --> 00:06:26,379 he also answered questions and he from 116 00:06:32,070 --> 00:06:28,899 my memory I think he answered everything 117 00:06:35,159 --> 00:06:32,080 that was thrown at him some of the 118 00:06:36,860 --> 00:06:35,169 questions he would answer two or three 119 00:06:39,269 --> 00:06:36,870 different times 120 00:06:41,490 --> 00:06:39,279 people would ask the same questions over 121 00:06:44,999 --> 00:06:41,500 and over he adds some questions he 122 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:45,009 refused to answer and of course if you 123 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:46,210 think about it and you've got an 124 00:06:50,399 --> 00:06:48,370 opportunity to speak to a time traveler 125 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:50,409 and ask him a question the first thing 126 00:06:55,139 --> 00:06:52,330 you're gonna do is what stocks do I buy 127 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:55,149 you know who won the World Series in in 128 00:06:59,300 --> 00:06:57,370 blah blah blah and those were the 129 00:07:02,999 --> 00:06:59,310 questions that he refused to answer 130 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:03,009 understandably so but and it reminds me 131 00:07:07,340 --> 00:07:05,769 of back to the future but that's a 132 00:07:12,650 --> 00:07:07,350 that's a the story 133 00:07:15,230 --> 00:07:12,660 but and then he said he had to leave and 134 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:15,240 when it and it was one of those things 135 00:07:22,460 --> 00:07:18,690 where for me person was like no you know 136 00:07:26,390 --> 00:07:22,470 don't don't go it was a it was a four 137 00:07:28,850 --> 00:07:26,400 month journey for all of us on the 138 00:07:36,860 --> 00:07:28,860 internet with Teeter at that time and 139 00:07:41,530 --> 00:07:36,870 then poof gone now supposedly there is a 140 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:41,540 John Titor exiting this time video 141 00:07:47,630 --> 00:07:44,450 there's been rumors about that forever 142 00:07:50,390 --> 00:07:47,640 now certainly if the video was out there 143 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:50,400 I think if somebody would have posted it 144 00:07:57,380 --> 00:07:54,410 by now somewhere but if anybody knows of 145 00:07:59,840 --> 00:07:57,390 where this video is if there's access to 146 00:08:02,150 --> 00:07:59,850 it my email is Jimmy at Jimmy Church 147 00:08:05,450 --> 00:08:02,160 radio.com I'll keep your name in 148 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:05,460 confidence but if anybody knows of that 149 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:07,170 video out there I would certainly like 150 00:08:14,210 --> 00:08:10,410 to see it so anyway so then March 21st 151 00:08:18,190 --> 00:08:14,220 2001 was his last post and and then 152 00:08:21,230 --> 00:08:18,200 suddenly he's vanished and the 153 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:21,240 investigation started and it continues 154 00:08:28,820 --> 00:08:26,010 to this day there is a series of videos 155 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:28,830 on YouTube I think it's called searching 156 00:08:35,959 --> 00:08:32,370 or looking for John Titor multiple 157 00:08:38,630 --> 00:08:35,969 episodes of this crew of guys in Florida 158 00:08:40,790 --> 00:08:38,640 that go out and chase down the attorney 159 00:08:44,630 --> 00:08:40,800 the attorneys brother I think the 160 00:08:46,220 --> 00:08:44,640 attorneys son and we'll get to that in a 161 00:08:49,130 --> 00:08:46,230 second that occurred there's also 162 00:08:52,670 --> 00:08:49,140 there's been a play made there's a 163 00:08:55,430 --> 00:08:52,680 there's a video a movie a serious 164 00:08:58,760 --> 00:08:55,440 b-movie on the internet as well I 165 00:09:01,280 --> 00:08:58,770 thought that and I think there still is 166 00:09:03,350 --> 00:09:01,290 something in development a you know like 167 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:03,360 a major motion picture and the story is 168 00:09:08,930 --> 00:09:07,050 so compelling that I'd almost love to be 169 00:09:11,590 --> 00:09:08,940 involved in and write a screenplay on 170 00:09:17,180 --> 00:09:11,600 that because the story is absolutely 171 00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:17,190 amazing now although the entire story 172 00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:19,710 can be just written off as a hoax there 173 00:09:23,780 --> 00:09:21,120 is something 174 00:09:26,690 --> 00:09:23,790 err about the story that grabs us all 175 00:09:29,030 --> 00:09:26,700 his details about it the life in the 176 00:09:33,140 --> 00:09:29,040 future and the predictions that he made 177 00:09:35,630 --> 00:09:33,150 and not only not only that but but what 178 00:09:38,810 --> 00:09:35,640 what day-to-day life is like in the 179 00:09:41,660 --> 00:09:38,820 future his reasons for not only coming 180 00:09:43,730 --> 00:09:41,670 back to the year 2000 but what his 181 00:09:45,980 --> 00:09:43,740 journey was back into the 70s and the 182 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:45,990 reason why he was time-traveling that 183 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:48,770 you know he was a member of the army 184 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:52,850 there was all of those details but it it 185 00:10:02,720 --> 00:09:58,170 the the predictions that he made some 186 00:10:05,780 --> 00:10:02,730 some came true absolutely did some of 187 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:05,790 them were completely wrong but the thing 188 00:10:12,019 --> 00:10:09,810 is is he had his out in in his story you 189 00:10:17,380 --> 00:10:12,029 know about you know he's in a parallel 190 00:10:20,900 --> 00:10:17,390 time and so what happens in our time and 191 00:10:22,610 --> 00:10:20,910 what occurs when he time travels are two 192 00:10:26,050 --> 00:10:22,620 different things and one doesn't affect 193 00:10:29,540 --> 00:10:26,060 the other so even though he may say 194 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:29,550 something is going to happen or did 195 00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:33,450 happen it's in another time another time 196 00:10:40,940 --> 00:10:37,680 line so that was his out and in reality 197 00:10:44,470 --> 00:10:40,950 when you go back and look at it it makes 198 00:10:48,190 --> 00:10:44,480 sense and not only that for me 199 00:10:52,790 --> 00:10:48,200 it was the pictures that he posted and 200 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:52,800 his his time machine now I haven't built 201 00:10:59,750 --> 00:10:53,610 a time machine 202 00:11:01,579 --> 00:10:59,760 idea but what he posted not only did he 203 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:01,589 post pictures of the time machine but he 204 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:04,410 posted the manual and some of the 205 00:11:10,910 --> 00:11:08,130 schematics and when you look at the the 206 00:11:14,470 --> 00:11:10,920 the photographs and you look at him up 207 00:11:18,230 --> 00:11:14,480 close the level of detail is 208 00:11:22,550 --> 00:11:18,240 extraordinary and this is the thing if 209 00:11:24,980 --> 00:11:22,560 it was a hoax and that time machine was 210 00:11:27,260 --> 00:11:24,990 built even a or let's just say it's it's 211 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:27,270 a hoax okay let's just go with that for 212 00:11:32,660 --> 00:11:31,170 now the way the level of detail on that 213 00:11:34,910 --> 00:11:32,670 and the way that it was built and I'm 214 00:11:37,790 --> 00:11:34,920 talking about switches and buts 215 00:11:42,410 --> 00:11:37,800 and cabling and labeling and lettering 216 00:11:46,430 --> 00:11:42,420 and labels all of that it's the amount 217 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:46,440 of work that went into that and then you 218 00:11:51,290 --> 00:11:49,290 tie that into the manual and the amount 219 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:51,300 of work and detail that goes into that 220 00:11:57,139 --> 00:11:55,440 and the the the people that would have 221 00:12:01,670 --> 00:11:57,149 to be exposed to this it wouldn't just 222 00:12:03,199 --> 00:12:01,680 be you know a one-man operation you've 223 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:03,209 got you would have to have artists 224 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:05,850 involved to create the manual you would 225 00:12:10,490 --> 00:12:08,250 have to have a technical writer involved 226 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:10,500 to write that you would have to have an 227 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:12,690 engineer and a model builder to build 228 00:12:19,189 --> 00:12:16,170 this time machine and his description on 229 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:19,199 how the time machine actually ran made 230 00:12:25,300 --> 00:12:21,600 sense it made so much sense that 231 00:12:28,939 --> 00:12:25,310 somebody went and tried to patent it 232 00:12:33,129 --> 00:12:28,949 actually applied for a patent on John 233 00:12:36,379 --> 00:12:33,139 teeters time machine the entire story so 234 00:12:39,380 --> 00:12:36,389 somebody who was involved in this and I 235 00:12:40,970 --> 00:12:39,390 would I would venture to guess and if 236 00:12:43,579 --> 00:12:40,980 somebody involved with the hoax is 237 00:12:45,769 --> 00:12:43,589 listening to me right now is gonna go 238 00:12:47,389 --> 00:12:45,779 well yeah he's right in that there would 239 00:12:50,630 --> 00:12:47,399 have to have been dozens of people 240 00:12:53,210 --> 00:12:50,640 involved with this story and somebody 241 00:12:56,470 --> 00:12:53,220 would have somebody's cover would have 242 00:13:02,750 --> 00:12:56,480 been blown and to this day it hasn't 243 00:13:06,769 --> 00:13:02,760 there has been no no artwork or or ideas 244 00:13:09,980 --> 00:13:06,779 or designs or sketches and nothing has 245 00:13:12,949 --> 00:13:09,990 surfaced anywhere and that is what makes 246 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:12,959 the story so crazy I mean it's too easy 247 00:13:18,139 --> 00:13:16,050 to write off it truly is because the 248 00:13:22,130 --> 00:13:18,149 subject matter alone right there he just 249 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:22,140 got done nah nah nah not true hoax 250 00:13:27,439 --> 00:13:25,170 good story but it's a hoax but when you 251 00:13:31,850 --> 00:13:27,449 start to add all of these other things 252 00:13:34,699 --> 00:13:31,860 together you come up with maybe this 253 00:13:37,309 --> 00:13:34,709 thing is a true story maybe there's 254 00:13:42,050 --> 00:13:37,319 something to this and that's what draws 255 00:13:45,620 --> 00:13:42,060 you in now there'll be a video of this 256 00:13:48,110 --> 00:13:45,630 radio show we we post everything and so 257 00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:48,120 when we do the video I will include in 258 00:13:50,780 --> 00:13:48,480 the vid 259 00:13:54,379 --> 00:13:50,790 the photographs of everything that I'm 260 00:13:57,620 --> 00:13:54,389 talking about and then you'll you'll 261 00:14:00,050 --> 00:13:57,630 understand okay so we'll get that tie in 262 00:14:03,290 --> 00:14:00,060 there but you have to remember that back 263 00:14:07,490 --> 00:14:03,300 in 2000 when these videos start popping 264 00:14:11,420 --> 00:14:07,500 up on the net you take one look and 265 00:14:13,850 --> 00:14:11,430 you're like no way this is this is real 266 00:14:14,900 --> 00:14:13,860 this does look like some type of 267 00:14:17,449 --> 00:14:14,910 army-issue 268 00:14:19,610 --> 00:14:17,459 equipment and then you look at the 269 00:14:20,990 --> 00:14:19,620 manual and the and the manual and the 270 00:14:22,750 --> 00:14:21,000 schematics and everything matches 271 00:14:26,180 --> 00:14:22,760 there's nothing wrong there's nothing 272 00:14:28,819 --> 00:14:26,190 incorrect and I was looking for 273 00:14:30,829 --> 00:14:28,829 something incorrect and the longer that 274 00:14:34,850 --> 00:14:30,839 I read the longer that I looked and I 275 00:14:37,699 --> 00:14:34,860 rechecked and checked I just I I got I 276 00:14:41,329 --> 00:14:37,709 got sucked in I really did and to this 277 00:14:42,519 --> 00:14:41,339 day I would just love for either Teeter 278 00:14:46,340 --> 00:14:42,529 to come back 279 00:14:49,370 --> 00:14:46,350 that would be paramount or the second 280 00:14:52,069 --> 00:14:49,380 thing is somebody to get busted please 281 00:14:55,790 --> 00:14:52,079 you know we we all need that the story 282 00:14:58,579 --> 00:14:55,800 has just continued to this day and and 283 00:15:00,410 --> 00:14:58,589 it's not gonna go away until one of two 284 00:15:02,810 --> 00:15:00,420 things happened somebody gets busted 285 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:02,820 where Teeter comes back and says okay I 286 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:05,570 got a couple of dates for it this is 287 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:08,130 fade to black I'm your host Jimmy Church 288 00:15:13,639 --> 00:15:11,730 on K JCR and the dark matter radio 289 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:13,649 network stay with us 290 00:15:41,490 --> 00:15:31,500 this my popular opinion reading a book 291 00:15:46,110 --> 00:15:41,500 will not make you smarter she's always 292 00:16:01,470 --> 00:15:46,120 giving it to you straight on the dark 293 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:21,610 this is KJ CR Jimmy Church radio 294 00:16:28,790 --> 00:16:23,780 part everybody welcome back 295 00:16:31,970 --> 00:16:28,800 this is fade to black I'm your host 296 00:16:36,650 --> 00:16:31,980 Jimmy Church we're on kjc r and the dark 297 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:36,660 matter radio network 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00:17:16,130 --> 00:17:12,750 I'm talking about right now which is 313 00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:16,140 John Titor John Titor 314 00:17:21,710 --> 00:17:19,260 a time traveler from 2036 first showed 315 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:21,720 up in November of 2000 on the internet 316 00:17:27,230 --> 00:17:24,569 and started posting he hung around in 317 00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:27,240 our timeline for about four months and 318 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:29,550 then suddenly vanish and disappeared and 319 00:17:35,330 --> 00:17:32,250 nobody's heard from him since and I 320 00:17:39,470 --> 00:17:35,340 remember listening to a couple of art 321 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:39,480 bells old shows and where he would say 322 00:17:47,540 --> 00:17:41,760 okay John Titor is listening give us a 323 00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:47,550 call well John if you're listening shoot 324 00:17:50,260 --> 00:17:48,960 me an email give me a call call me on 325 00:17:53,090 --> 00:17:50,270 skype right now 326 00:17:56,659 --> 00:17:53,100 fade to black 14 we'd love to hear from 327 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:56,669 you but so he he hung around for about 328 00:18:01,520 --> 00:17:58,050 four months and then suddenly 329 00:18:04,669 --> 00:18:01,530 disappeared and there was a video a 330 00:18:08,510 --> 00:18:04,679 purported video that shows him leaving 331 00:18:12,650 --> 00:18:08,520 us and going back to where he came from 332 00:18:18,650 --> 00:18:12,660 now his mission was to get a computer 333 00:18:21,020 --> 00:18:18,660 from the 1970s because this specific 334 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:21,030 computer will get we'll get to that the 335 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:22,890 details of that entire story here in a 336 00:18:31,130 --> 00:18:27,200 few but would help solve some 337 00:18:33,290 --> 00:18:31,140 programming issues in in 2036 so he had 338 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:33,300 to go back and get this computer now the 339 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:34,410 story behind the computer 340 00:18:38,060 --> 00:18:35,610 we're gonna get to that because there's 341 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:38,070 a lot of details with it who and what 342 00:18:43,310 --> 00:18:41,130 knew what it was and a lot of stuff has 343 00:18:45,230 --> 00:18:43,320 come out so we'll address that in a 344 00:18:49,220 --> 00:18:45,240 second but what I wanted to get to now 345 00:18:51,860 --> 00:18:49,230 is his original set of post and 346 00:18:54,650 --> 00:18:51,870 predictions that started in November 347 00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:54,660 2009 he did a solid four months of this 348 00:19:00,970 --> 00:18:57,600 but in November 2000 a few things 349 00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:00,980 happened right away and I remember 350 00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:05,880 reading it now a lot of this has to let 351 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:08,910 me get to the first one and this is what 352 00:19:14,180 --> 00:19:10,410 he wrote he said I was just about to 353 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:14,190 give up this is November 2nd 2001 he 354 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:16,110 says I was just about to give up hope on 355 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:18,930 anyone knowing who Tipler or ker was on 356 00:19:25,610 --> 00:19:22,110 this world line the basics for time 357 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:25,620 travel start at CERN see ER n everybody 358 00:19:31,550 --> 00:19:28,050 knows about CERN in Switzerland in about 359 00:19:35,780 --> 00:19:31,560 a year and end in 2034 with the first 360 00:19:38,540 --> 00:19:35,790 time machine built by GE too bad we 361 00:19:41,780 --> 00:19:38,550 can't post pictures or I'd show it to 362 00:19:45,380 --> 00:19:41,790 you now on the surface there's a couple 363 00:19:48,740 --> 00:19:45,390 of things in this post okay first thing 364 00:19:51,700 --> 00:19:48,750 he says too bad we can't post pictures 365 00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:51,710 because I remember reading that thinking 366 00:20:00,500 --> 00:19:55,440 what does he mean we we all can post 367 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:00,510 pictures on the net so either he's new 368 00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:01,410 to the Internet 369 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:03,120 our version of the internet doesn't know 370 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:05,610 how to post pictures number two doesn't 371 00:20:09,620 --> 00:20:07,770 have a camera or three doesn't have 372 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:09,630 pictures of the specific time machine 373 00:20:15,530 --> 00:20:12,690 from 2034 I'm not too sure what he meant 374 00:20:18,890 --> 00:20:15,540 there but it was a weird line to type 375 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:18,900 and for somebody to have in the vision 376 00:20:24,740 --> 00:20:21,170 of a hoax to type something like that 377 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:24,750 and that type of verbage is either 378 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:26,970 genius or somebody doesn't know what 379 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:28,650 they're doing there's no gray area in 380 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:31,770 the middle here but that right there 381 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:35,490 that line grabbed me from day one but it 382 00:20:43,850 --> 00:20:39,690 was the other part about CERN CERN at 383 00:20:46,130 --> 00:20:43,860 the time there there was some basic 384 00:20:48,190 --> 00:20:46,140 information coming out about CERN and 385 00:20:49,899 --> 00:20:48,200 its possibilities and 386 00:20:52,060 --> 00:20:49,909 and with some of the experiments that 387 00:20:56,229 --> 00:20:52,070 they were planning there was some of it 388 00:20:57,940 --> 00:20:56,239 there but basically it was wasn't common 389 00:21:00,249 --> 00:20:57,950 knowledge about certain with anybody 390 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:00,259 unless you were within the inner circle 391 00:21:04,210 --> 00:21:02,330 there but this is the curious thing that 392 00:21:08,729 --> 00:21:04,220 happened and he talks about this in in 393 00:21:12,009 --> 00:21:08,739 later post which I'll get to was about 394 00:21:14,259 --> 00:21:12,019 miniature black holes being created at 395 00:21:18,729 --> 00:21:14,269 CERN that would open up the door to 396 00:21:22,409 --> 00:21:18,739 time-travel now the thing is is that 397 00:21:27,489 --> 00:21:22,419 actually happened now does that mean 398 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:27,499 he's a time traveler no everybody knows 399 00:21:31,509 --> 00:21:29,690 that CERN was coming online and these 400 00:21:34,239 --> 00:21:31,519 were some of the possibilities but 401 00:21:36,609 --> 00:21:34,249 unless you were and we know that now but 402 00:21:39,549 --> 00:21:36,619 unless you were part of the the inner 403 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:39,559 workings at CERN you probably didn't 404 00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:41,690 know anything about it and now if you 405 00:21:48,779 --> 00:21:45,190 were a scientist not working at CERN and 406 00:21:52,239 --> 00:21:48,789 you were in the physics or what have you 407 00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:52,249 then you may dream about the 408 00:21:56,859 --> 00:21:54,320 possibilities of CERN and would be able 409 00:22:00,700 --> 00:21:56,869 to put that into a post and have it make 410 00:22:04,090 --> 00:22:00,710 sense but I don't think that John Titor 411 00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:04,100 the hoaxer came from that level of 412 00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:05,960 intelligence and would be able to put 413 00:22:11,979 --> 00:22:09,710 that in a post like that where it made 414 00:22:13,869 --> 00:22:11,989 sense and that it actually came true 415 00:22:17,259 --> 00:22:13,879 that was one of the most intriguing 416 00:22:20,859 --> 00:22:17,269 posts that he had ever done ok then he 417 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:20,869 goes on the same day he posed is there a 418 00:22:27,690 --> 00:22:23,710 site where I don't need to register 419 00:22:31,869 --> 00:22:27,700 personal information to post pictures 420 00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:31,879 again what kind of question is that to 421 00:22:37,930 --> 00:22:35,600 ask now unless you're a genius and you 422 00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:37,940 know that you need to write in this 423 00:22:42,609 --> 00:22:40,609 fashion I just don't see somebody having 424 00:22:45,789 --> 00:22:42,619 that type of if you're hoaxing and 425 00:22:48,940 --> 00:22:45,799 you're just not that smart or you've got 426 00:22:51,310 --> 00:22:48,950 50 people working behind you posting 427 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:51,320 this stuff and nobody has been exposed 428 00:22:56,379 --> 00:22:53,570 you have to understand the way that I 429 00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:56,389 look at it now certainly I do want the 430 00:23:01,960 --> 00:22:58,970 story to be true yes ok all right am i 431 00:23:04,450 --> 00:23:01,970 skeptic on this sort of 432 00:23:09,159 --> 00:23:04,460 and the only reason why I say sort of is 433 00:23:13,269 --> 00:23:09,169 because it's been 13 years and nobody 434 00:23:16,629 --> 00:23:13,279 has been busted yet and that's the part 435 00:23:19,180 --> 00:23:16,639 for me that grabs me you know I wait I 436 00:23:21,399 --> 00:23:19,190 search all the time I just jump in every 437 00:23:23,289 --> 00:23:21,409 couple of weeks and I'll Google John 438 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:23,299 Titor to see if there's anything new or 439 00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:25,610 anything breaking or any news or 440 00:23:30,820 --> 00:23:28,460 somebody busted or just anything out 441 00:23:33,369 --> 00:23:30,830 there so I I've always tried to stay on 442 00:23:37,389 --> 00:23:33,379 top of it nothing has happened 443 00:23:40,659 --> 00:23:37,399 okay so later November 2nd he post I'll 444 00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:40,669 be happy to send them to you and answer 445 00:23:51,009 --> 00:23:43,360 any questions you may have 446 00:23:54,850 --> 00:23:51,019 Wow really okay so now on November 2nd 447 00:23:56,740 --> 00:23:54,860 he answers somebody and it says I saw 448 00:23:59,499 --> 00:23:56,750 the post and requesting basic systems 449 00:24:01,450 --> 00:23:59,509 for gravity distortions for a gravity 450 00:24:06,009 --> 00:24:01,460 distortion system that will allow time 451 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:06,019 travel here is what they are number one 452 00:24:14,820 --> 00:24:10,370 a magnetic housing units for dual you 453 00:24:18,669 --> 00:24:14,830 ready Micro singularities number two 454 00:24:22,169 --> 00:24:18,679 electron injection manifold to alter the 455 00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:22,179 mass and gravity of micro singularities 456 00:24:31,419 --> 00:24:26,320 three cooling an x-ray venting system 457 00:24:34,330 --> 00:24:31,429 for gravity sensors of vgl system I'm 458 00:24:40,060 --> 00:24:34,340 gonna get to that right after this five 459 00:24:43,570 --> 00:24:40,070 main clocks for ceci immunise and number 460 00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:43,580 six main computer units of which there 461 00:24:52,629 --> 00:24:50,000 are three now this is the thing time 462 00:24:54,190 --> 00:24:52,639 travel going back to HG Wells and 463 00:24:57,730 --> 00:24:54,200 science fiction and the way it's been 464 00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:57,740 written and dreamed about there's some 465 00:25:00,610 --> 00:24:59,360 major problems with it and I'm not 466 00:25:04,499 --> 00:25:00,620 talking about the grandfather paradox 467 00:25:07,450 --> 00:25:04,509 that's that's nothing in that simple but 468 00:25:10,269 --> 00:25:07,460 one of the problems with time travel and 469 00:25:12,490 --> 00:25:10,279 if you like I said going back to HG 470 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:12,500 Wells and and all any movie that you can 471 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:14,210 think of anybody that's traveling in 472 00:25:18,490 --> 00:25:15,170 time 473 00:25:20,770 --> 00:25:18,500 there's one thing that is a big problem 474 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:20,780 and if you've never thought about it I'm 475 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:22,010 gonna lay it out to you right now so 476 00:25:27,570 --> 00:25:24,890 just listen get really close to your 477 00:25:30,580 --> 00:25:27,580 speaker and listen to what I'm saying 478 00:25:34,270 --> 00:25:30,590 if you're on this earth and you're 479 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:34,280 moving in time the earth is still in 480 00:25:42,670 --> 00:25:37,690 orbit it's moving around the Sun so 481 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:42,680 although you may vanish poof and go 482 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:46,370 somewhere that doesn't mean that when 483 00:25:54,070 --> 00:25:48,770 you get to where you're going you're 484 00:25:57,220 --> 00:25:54,080 landing back on planet Earth because the 485 00:25:59,890 --> 00:25:57,230 earth is moved think about that for a 486 00:26:02,830 --> 00:25:59,900 second if you're a time traveler the 487 00:26:05,620 --> 00:26:02,840 last thing that you want is to go and 488 00:26:08,140 --> 00:26:05,630 spin the dial and pick a date and vanish 489 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:08,150 and poof and then wind up in in space 490 00:26:16,420 --> 00:26:09,890 somewhere in a vacuum without a 491 00:26:19,630 --> 00:26:16,430 spacesuit dead think about that and 492 00:26:24,510 --> 00:26:19,640 that's what this addresses this last 493 00:26:29,140 --> 00:26:24,520 post and it is something that up until 494 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:29,150 teeters posting in 2000 all the science 495 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:30,530 fiction writers and everything out that 496 00:26:38,860 --> 00:26:32,210 nobody's address this nobody's talked 497 00:26:43,450 --> 00:26:38,870 about it and it's addressed here now so 498 00:26:45,550 --> 00:26:43,460 so now today when discussing time travel 499 00:26:48,850 --> 00:26:45,560 believe it or not and I believe because 500 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:48,860 of what Titor posted scientists now have 501 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:51,290 to forcefully address that and not only 502 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:55,010 that the writers that are writing in in 503 00:26:58,380 --> 00:26:56,810 books and movies and so forth if you're 504 00:27:02,380 --> 00:26:58,390 getting consider this but at that time 505 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:02,390 it was an original thought that was put 506 00:27:10,270 --> 00:27:08,480 down in this post now he says that is 507 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:10,280 one of the problems will try and travel 508 00:27:17,050 --> 00:27:13,010 that we had to fix in the future we 509 00:27:19,540 --> 00:27:17,060 could time travel but we couldn't land 510 00:27:24,220 --> 00:27:19,550 our feet where we needed our feet to 511 00:27:27,970 --> 00:27:24,230 land but once we got that fix all bets 512 00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:27,980 were off and that's what allowed time 513 00:27:32,730 --> 00:27:28,910 travel 514 00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:32,740 now again if all of this is a hoax 515 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:36,880 somebody very smart and probably a few 516 00:27:43,930 --> 00:27:40,850 brains had to be applied into this kind 517 00:27:45,610 --> 00:27:43,940 of thinking and again and I'm gonna run 518 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:45,620 this in the ground on this program 519 00:27:50,380 --> 00:27:48,530 tonight for 13 years nothing has really 520 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:50,390 been shot down in this story and nobody 521 00:27:57,940 --> 00:27:55,610 has been caught nobody and if they're 522 00:27:59,470 --> 00:27:57,950 with everybody out there that would have 523 00:28:00,910 --> 00:27:59,480 to have been involved in this hoax 524 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:00,920 somebody would have been caught 525 00:28:07,450 --> 00:28:03,170 certainly somebody writing something 526 00:28:13,180 --> 00:28:07,460 like this and it hasn't happened but 527 00:28:16,750 --> 00:28:13,190 John Titor says in 2036 they fixed the 528 00:28:18,910 --> 00:28:16,760 gravity and time delays the gravity 529 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:18,920 sensors and the main clocks that allowed 530 00:28:25,630 --> 00:28:22,880 the time-traveling the time traveler to 531 00:28:29,380 --> 00:28:25,640 actually end up where he needed to be 532 00:28:32,110 --> 00:28:29,390 his foot on terra firma and not out in 533 00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:32,120 the vacuum of space being sucked away 534 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:35,360 somewhere you know and if you think 535 00:28:41,470 --> 00:28:37,090 about the implications of that how many 536 00:28:45,780 --> 00:28:41,480 how many hapless guinea pigs are out 537 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:45,790 there in the year 2036 2035 2030 for 538 00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:49,850 going into the GE plant over General 539 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:53,120 Electric's and would have to test out 540 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:56,330 this time machine and and how many times 541 00:29:02,220 --> 00:28:58,250 they had to go well okay that didn't 542 00:29:04,510 --> 00:29:02,230 work that didn't work that didn't work 543 00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:04,520 but apparently they got it worked out 544 00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:08,240 and it's an amazing thought then 545 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:15,830 November 4th he posts this gem he 546 00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:17,570 responds to a question and the question 547 00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:19,000 is this 548 00:29:26,890 --> 00:29:24,830 what does time-traveling look like okay 549 00:29:29,890 --> 00:29:26,900 think about this for a second and this 550 00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:29,900 is his response and again I'm quoting 551 00:29:36,190 --> 00:29:33,440 here the unit has a ramp up time after 552 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:36,200 the destination coordinates are fed into 553 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:39,290 the computers an audible alarm and small 554 00:29:44,190 --> 00:29:41,890 lights start a short countdown at 555 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:44,200 which point you should be secured in a 556 00:29:50,610 --> 00:29:47,290 seat the gravity field generated by the 557 00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:50,620 unit overtakes you very quickly you feel 558 00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:53,110 a tug toward the unit similar to rising 559 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:55,600 quickly in an elevator and it continues 560 00:30:01,830 --> 00:29:57,850 to rise based on the power setting the 561 00:30:04,410 --> 00:30:01,840 unit is working under at 100% power the 562 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:04,420 constant pole of gravity can be as high 563 00:30:10,530 --> 00:30:07,090 as 2 G's or more depending on how close 564 00:30:13,290 --> 00:30:10,540 you are to the unit there are no serious 565 00:30:18,390 --> 00:30:13,300 side effects but I try to avoid eating 566 00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:18,400 before a flight he continues no bright 567 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:22,000 flash of light is seen outside the 568 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:24,250 vehicle appears to accelerate as the 569 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:28,210 light is bent around it we have to wear 570 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:31,570 sunglasses or close our eyes as this 571 00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:33,850 happens due to a short burst of 572 00:30:39,930 --> 00:30:37,990 ultraviolet radiation personally I think 573 00:30:43,410 --> 00:30:39,940 it looks like you're driving under a 574 00:30:44,190 --> 00:30:43,420 rainbow after that it appears to fade to 575 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:44,200 black 576 00:30:48,690 --> 00:30:46,510 you like that don't you and it remains 577 00:30:51,450 --> 00:30:48,700 totally black until the unit is turned 578 00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:51,460 off we are advised to keep the windows 579 00:30:56,970 --> 00:30:54,070 closed as a great deal of heat builds up 580 00:30:59,850 --> 00:30:56,980 outside of the car the gravity field 581 00:31:03,660 --> 00:30:59,860 also traps a small air pocket around the 582 00:31:06,620 --> 00:31:03,670 car that acts as your only oxygen supply 583 00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:06,630 unless you bring compressed air with you 584 00:31:11,850 --> 00:31:09,310 this pocket will only last for a short 585 00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:11,860 period and the carbon sensor tells us 586 00:31:18,930 --> 00:31:13,470 when it is too dangerous 587 00:31:21,510 --> 00:31:18,940 the c2 o4 unit is accurate from 50 to 60 588 00:31:26,370 --> 00:31:21,520 years a jump and travels at about 10 589 00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:26,380 years an hour at 100% power you do hear 590 00:31:31,710 --> 00:31:29,080 a slight hum as the unit operates and 591 00:31:35,010 --> 00:31:31,720 when the power changes or the unit turns 592 00:31:37,650 --> 00:31:35,020 off there is a great deal of electrical 593 00:31:44,390 --> 00:31:37,660 crackling noise from static electricity 594 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:44,400 and quote what a gem well written and 595 00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:48,130 again for all of those sci-fi writers 596 00:31:56,270 --> 00:31:51,190 out there up until this time nobody 597 00:32:01,080 --> 00:31:56,280 looked at time-traveling like this ever 598 00:32:03,690 --> 00:32:01,090 the description for me back then was and 599 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:03,700 I hate to use the word compelling but it 600 00:32:15,810 --> 00:32:11,650 sucked me in it really did but at the 601 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:15,820 time this was the thing I was waiting 602 00:32:21,450 --> 00:32:18,250 for some genius I'm not quite smart 603 00:32:25,740 --> 00:32:21,460 enough to get out in one of these forum 604 00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:25,750 threads and just chop this guy to shreds 605 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:27,790 and get this over with 606 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:30,370 there was just no way I needed somebody 607 00:32:35,210 --> 00:32:32,650 I think we were all doing it by the way 608 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:35,220 all of us that were reading back then 609 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:39,090 were posting questions to hopefully 610 00:32:46,530 --> 00:32:42,730 cause him to stumble I think all of that 611 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:46,540 was the intention of the questions well 612 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:48,370 maybe some of them were genuine 613 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:52,330 I suppose you know most of us wanted to 614 00:32:57,330 --> 00:32:54,370 believe but we were also expecting the 615 00:33:00,210 --> 00:32:57,340 inevitable which was somebody was gonna 616 00:33:02,490 --> 00:33:00,220 come in and bust this guy you know maybe 617 00:33:06,210 --> 00:33:02,500 an ex-girlfriend was gonna post haveá-- 618 00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:06,220 this guy you know a friend of his you 619 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:07,840 know something that was gonna happen 620 00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:10,690 somebody he was gonna trip up somewhere 621 00:33:15,390 --> 00:33:12,910 and just say the wrong thing at the 622 00:33:18,150 --> 00:33:15,400 wrong time and and then his cover's 623 00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:18,160 blown and it's over with and quite 624 00:33:24,530 --> 00:33:19,750 honestly you know that just never 625 00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:24,540 happened so back to the 5100 computer 626 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:29,950 which was built by IBM and John stated 627 00:33:36,810 --> 00:33:34,330 that his mission was to go from 2036 628 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:36,820 back to 1975 and if I get any of the 629 00:33:41,070 --> 00:33:39,010 facts wrong or anything anybody wants to 630 00:33:44,610 --> 00:33:41,080 bust my chops on this I'm talking live 631 00:33:47,790 --> 00:33:44,620 on the radio right now have at it by the 632 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:47,800 way is his mission was to go from 2036 633 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:53,050 back to 1975 and recover an IBM 5100 634 00:33:59,160 --> 00:33:56,770 computer now when I started to read this 635 00:34:02,130 --> 00:33:59,170 back then I thought AHA now this is a 636 00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:02,140 situation where he can't he can't 637 00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:05,260 fabricate anything he's got a this has 638 00:34:08,669 --> 00:34:06,550 got to keep his story straight 639 00:34:10,409 --> 00:34:08,679 I actually thought at the time 640 00:34:13,530 --> 00:34:10,419 that if somebody was gonna bust him it 641 00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:13,540 was going to be about this 5100 and and 642 00:34:21,470 --> 00:34:18,399 and later on as years past from from 643 00:34:24,030 --> 00:34:21,480 2000 when he law as the years passed 644 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:24,040 some information has come out about this 645 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:26,530 and I'll visit that in a second but he 646 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:31,210 said that the 5100 computer had the 647 00:34:41,819 --> 00:34:37,770 ability to read mainframe computers and 648 00:34:45,059 --> 00:34:41,829 their languages now what's he referring 649 00:34:48,990 --> 00:34:45,069 to when he says that today we're used to 650 00:34:50,730 --> 00:34:49,000 laptops and and tablets and what have 651 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:50,740 you you know there's still some towers 652 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:55,290 being sold somewhere but in the 60s and 653 00:34:59,970 --> 00:34:57,010 70s 654 00:35:02,339 --> 00:34:59,980 IBM built these monstrosities that 655 00:35:04,349 --> 00:35:02,349 you've seen in the movies these huge 656 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:04,359 things the size of refrigerators with 657 00:35:08,730 --> 00:35:06,089 the big tape drives on them and and 658 00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:08,740 whatnot and I worked at Bell 659 00:35:14,430 --> 00:35:12,400 Laboratories in in the ninety nineteen 660 00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:14,440 80s and I'll never forget we had this 661 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:17,500 main computer room on the first floor of 662 00:35:22,260 --> 00:35:20,530 one of the buildings that handled all of 663 00:35:24,059 --> 00:35:22,270 the computing systems any computer that 664 00:35:26,490 --> 00:35:24,069 you saw in somebody's desk was just a 665 00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:26,500 monitor everything was tied into these 666 00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:28,569 computers downstairs these huge things 667 00:35:32,970 --> 00:35:30,670 and people running around in lab coats 668 00:35:37,950 --> 00:35:32,980 that's what I'm talking about 669 00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:37,960 okay so the computers in 2036 had some 670 00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:43,119 issues and they needed to get a 5100 I B 671 00:35:48,420 --> 00:35:46,750 M which at that time in 1975 the 5100 672 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:48,430 was like one of the first personal 673 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:50,650 computers it's a little desktop little 674 00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:52,450 Cruiser thing with a built-in monitor 675 00:35:58,020 --> 00:35:55,839 and again if you're watching this as a 676 00:36:02,099 --> 00:35:58,030 video you're probably looking at a 677 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:02,109 picture of it right now but anyway that 678 00:36:08,670 --> 00:36:04,450 this computer had the ability to plug 679 00:36:11,819 --> 00:36:08,680 into a mainframe and access its code and 680 00:36:13,319 --> 00:36:11,829 they needed to do that in the future for 681 00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:13,329 whatever reason that doesn't matter but 682 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:16,720 but the fact that he stated something 683 00:36:22,140 --> 00:36:20,890 specific that this 5100 had the ability 684 00:36:24,329 --> 00:36:22,150 to read may 685 00:36:26,490 --> 00:36:24,339 frame computers was a piece of 686 00:36:30,029 --> 00:36:26,500 information that could be checked out 687 00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:30,039 and guess what the internet did and 688 00:36:39,890 --> 00:36:34,569 people did and we found out that yes 689 00:36:44,130 --> 00:36:39,900 indeed a small Corps of Engineers a 690 00:36:45,930 --> 00:36:44,140 handful of guys at IBM confirm this and 691 00:36:49,319 --> 00:36:45,940 they were the ones that knew that 692 00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:49,329 absolutely it could do this it had some 693 00:36:55,650 --> 00:36:52,000 kind of I can't remember 360 emulator 694 00:37:00,720 --> 00:36:55,660 circuited whatever and allowed you know 695 00:37:02,279 --> 00:37:00,730 the ROM to be written read but it was it 696 00:37:03,410 --> 00:37:02,289 was something that all of us could go 697 00:37:06,329 --> 00:37:03,420 aha 698 00:37:08,849 --> 00:37:06,339 maybe he's telling the truth about this 699 00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:08,859 but he had also said in his post 700 00:37:14,220 --> 00:37:11,440 something else that I think all of us 701 00:37:19,230 --> 00:37:14,230 found interesting which was this it was 702 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:19,240 a relative of his that worked on the 703 00:37:27,930 --> 00:37:25,170 original 5100 now I thought to myself 704 00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:27,940 there's there's the smoking gun in this 705 00:37:34,049 --> 00:37:32,260 hoax he leads us on this 5100 path and 706 00:37:36,029 --> 00:37:34,059 everybody confirms it but then in 707 00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:36,039 reality if you look at this you start to 708 00:37:43,410 --> 00:37:38,049 peel back the layers a little bit did he 709 00:37:47,730 --> 00:37:43,420 slip up for the first time in that did 710 00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:47,740 this hoaxer have a relative that gave 711 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:50,710 him or gave the team of hoaxers this 712 00:37:56,730 --> 00:37:53,650 information about the 5100 and inserted 713 00:37:58,819 --> 00:37:56,740 this into the story because they were 714 00:38:02,849 --> 00:37:58,829 the ones that knew about it 715 00:38:07,980 --> 00:38:02,859 possibility strong possibility and as it 716 00:38:10,019 --> 00:38:07,990 turns out I'll get to that I don't want 717 00:38:12,660 --> 00:38:10,029 to I don't want to get too sideways in 718 00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:12,670 the story but as it turns out now today 719 00:38:18,450 --> 00:38:16,089 and then now now you know the some John 720 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:18,460 Titor investigators out there have found 721 00:38:26,339 --> 00:38:22,450 that the lawyer that represents John 722 00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:26,349 teeters family owns a company called the 723 00:38:32,130 --> 00:38:28,089 John Titor foundation we'll get into 724 00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:32,140 that too as well but he's got relatives 725 00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:35,760 and his son that are compete 726 00:38:43,130 --> 00:38:39,780 nerds and possibly could this 727 00:38:44,930 --> 00:38:43,140 information have come from them it's 728 00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:44,940 like the one little hole in the story 729 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:47,760 there's half of it that makes sense and 730 00:38:52,070 --> 00:38:50,370 is it's a total genius and then there's 731 00:38:55,940 --> 00:38:52,080 the other half of it where it's just a 732 00:39:00,530 --> 00:38:55,950 big aha moment okay with that I'm gonna 733 00:39:04,070 --> 00:39:00,540 take a break this is Kay JCR fade to 734 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:04,080 black I am your host Jimmy church we on 735 00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:06,810 the Dark Matter radio network and I hope 736 00:39:13,970 --> 00:39:10,260 you're having a great Friday two days 737 00:39:15,980 --> 00:39:13,980 after Christmas all right Doug take us 738 00:39:35,180 --> 00:39:15,990 out I'll be back in just a moment 739 00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:46,180 this is kjc our Jimmy Church radio 740 00:40:38,219 --> 00:39:48,590 Queens of the Stone Age you listen to 741 00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:40,449 all right everybody welcome back 742 00:40:46,089 --> 00:40:43,910 this is fade to black you're listening 743 00:40:48,689 --> 00:40:46,099 to KJ CR and the dark matter radio 744 00:40:51,249 --> 00:40:48,699 network I am your host Jimmy Church I 745 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:51,259 feel like one of those late-night radio 746 00:40:55,390 --> 00:40:53,930 guys I really do 747 00:40:57,609 --> 00:40:55,400 and I hope you're having a wonderful 748 00:41:00,160 --> 00:40:57,619 Friday email me to Jimmy at Jimmy Church 749 00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:00,170 radio.com tell me what you think about 750 00:41:06,819 --> 00:41:04,400 John Titor it's an amazing story spend 751 00:41:10,569 --> 00:41:06,829 some time this week if it's a news story 752 00:41:13,509 --> 00:41:10,579 to you John Titor spent some time this 753 00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:13,519 week doing a little bit of reading send 754 00:41:19,029 --> 00:41:16,880 me some email post tweet you know what 755 00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:19,039 to do you can follow us you can 756 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:21,680 subscribe to us you can certainly like 757 00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:25,690 us alright talking about John Titor and 758 00:41:34,180 --> 00:41:29,839 if you're just coming in now telling the 759 00:41:37,420 --> 00:41:34,190 story about a time traveler from 2036 760 00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:37,430 his name was John Titor time travel 761 00:41:44,380 --> 00:41:40,910 underscore zero is what he had used for 762 00:41:49,150 --> 00:41:44,390 a bunch of forums originally oddly 763 00:41:51,219 --> 00:41:49,160 enough tied to art Bell in the year 2000 764 00:41:53,049 --> 00:41:51,229 now all of the posts that he had done 765 00:41:56,229 --> 00:41:53,059 and I'm not going to read it would take 766 00:41:59,559 --> 00:41:56,239 literally two weeks of shows to to read 767 00:42:03,099 --> 00:41:59,569 everything that he had posted but and 768 00:42:04,829 --> 00:42:03,109 all of the original posts took place pre 769 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:04,839 9/11 770 00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:08,410 okay those events hadn't happened yet so 771 00:42:17,170 --> 00:42:14,569 if you think about it in those terms the 772 00:42:20,410 --> 00:42:17,180 world certainly the United States but 773 00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:20,420 the world changed radically shortly 774 00:42:28,359 --> 00:42:25,640 after that but okay so he says that he's 775 00:42:30,370 --> 00:42:28,369 from the Year 2036 and he had to go back 776 00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:30,380 to 1975 which I'm going to talk about 777 00:42:37,749 --> 00:42:33,670 right now and he was on his way back to 778 00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:37,759 2036 when he decided to stop by the year 779 00:42:43,630 --> 00:42:40,400 2000 do a little drive-by hang out with 780 00:42:46,709 --> 00:42:43,640 his family do a little visit and not 781 00:42:48,819 --> 00:42:46,719 only that check this out 782 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:48,829 to visit 783 00:43:03,699 --> 00:42:56,450 himself Little John Titor mini John mini 784 00:43:06,489 --> 00:43:03,709 Teeter yeah and the thing is about the 785 00:43:09,870 --> 00:43:06,499 story and all of the post and everything 786 00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:09,880 that had gone down at that time it 787 00:43:16,180 --> 00:43:12,319 nobody shot any holes in it nobody was 788 00:43:19,449 --> 00:43:16,190 able to really pick it apart his story 789 00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:19,459 if it was a hoax his story was so well 790 00:43:28,029 --> 00:43:23,119 put together that nobody could and we're 791 00:43:30,999 --> 00:43:28,039 still trying okay so now picking up 792 00:43:33,099 --> 00:43:31,009 where I left off before the break we're 793 00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:33,109 talking about the 5100 computer that he 794 00:43:37,539 --> 00:43:35,599 went back to go and get now check this 795 00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:37,549 out Nana and I have been saying and you 796 00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:40,910 have to understand and get your head 797 00:43:46,959 --> 00:43:43,910 around exactly what I'm trying to say to 798 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:46,969 you which is he answered just about 799 00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:49,130 every question that was thrown at him 800 00:43:58,029 --> 00:43:53,599 and some of it was fairly quick in 801 00:44:00,969 --> 00:43:58,039 response and also I meant to say this 802 00:44:03,579 --> 00:44:00,979 earlier but for somebody from 2036 it 803 00:44:08,319 --> 00:44:03,589 didn't seem like he was too too versed 804 00:44:10,660 --> 00:44:08,329 in in computers but in the way that at 805 00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:10,670 least in the way that they ran in the 806 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:13,369 year 2000 I don't know what it was like 807 00:44:18,489 --> 00:44:14,930 in 2036 808 00:44:20,799 --> 00:44:18,499 but sometimes he seemed a little 809 00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:20,809 juvenile when it came to computing and 810 00:44:26,259 --> 00:44:23,599 he also insisted that he wasn't a 811 00:44:29,650 --> 00:44:26,269 physicist and he wasn't a scientist he's 812 00:44:33,249 --> 00:44:29,660 just a soldier in an army from the 813 00:44:34,779 --> 00:44:33,259 future that was sent on a mission and he 814 00:44:36,279 --> 00:44:34,789 would try it the other thing was that 815 00:44:39,089 --> 00:44:36,289 was fascinating that you know he 816 00:44:42,969 --> 00:44:39,099 believed in Jesus and okay so anyway 817 00:44:46,660 --> 00:44:42,979 before I get sideways here's a question 818 00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:46,670 that was thrown at him why did you go 819 00:44:56,859 --> 00:44:50,049 back to 1975 simple enough question 820 00:45:01,319 --> 00:44:56,869 admits he says and I quote the first leg 821 00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:01,329 of my trip was from 2036 to 1975 after 822 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:02,480 2v 823 00:45:10,210 --> 00:45:06,050 gl checks the divergence was estimated 824 00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:10,220 at about 2.5 percent from my 2036 time I 825 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:13,369 was sent to get an IBM computer system 826 00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:16,490 called to fit the 5100 it was one of the 827 00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:18,710 first portable computers made and it 828 00:45:23,740 --> 00:45:21,200 will and it has the ability to read 829 00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:23,750 older IBM programming languages in 830 00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:28,640 addition to APL and basic we need the 831 00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:32,240 system to debug various legacy computer 832 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:36,880 programs in 2036 UNIX has a problem in 833 00:45:45,099 --> 00:45:42,050 2038 on my world line it is known that 834 00:45:47,890 --> 00:45:45,109 the 5100 series is capable of reading 835 00:45:51,330 --> 00:45:47,900 all of the IBM code written before the 836 00:45:54,370 --> 00:45:51,340 widespread use of APL and basic 837 00:45:58,530 --> 00:45:54,380 unfortunately there are none left that 838 00:46:02,920 --> 00:45:58,540 anyone can find on my world line 839 00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:02,930 technologies themselves are not lost but 840 00:46:08,650 --> 00:46:05,390 some of the older tools and techniques 841 00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:08,660 have been lost I think there was more 842 00:46:13,810 --> 00:46:10,310 detailed information about the war 843 00:46:18,130 --> 00:46:13,820 posted earlier when I leave I will 844 00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:18,140 return to 2036 the computer I have is 845 00:46:27,790 --> 00:46:24,800 expected there and of post now if you're 846 00:46:31,150 --> 00:46:27,800 gonna tell a lie if you're gonna make 847 00:46:33,490 --> 00:46:31,160 something up you can't come up with 848 00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:33,500 these kind of details you just can't do 849 00:46:42,849 --> 00:46:38,480 it and everybody out there everybody has 850 00:46:46,990 --> 00:46:42,859 lied the Pope has lied everybody has 851 00:46:50,740 --> 00:46:47,000 lied at least once and whether it is 852 00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:50,750 something simple like hey have you ever 853 00:47:00,670 --> 00:46:55,280 stolen a pen ever taken a pen from your 854 00:47:04,510 --> 00:47:00,680 place of employment no I haven't that's 855 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:04,520 a lie everybody's taking a pen from work 856 00:47:13,810 --> 00:47:11,210 it's not right but everybody has and so 857 00:47:16,330 --> 00:47:13,820 if you're gonna turn around and and have 858 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:16,340 to be forced into making something 859 00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:18,050 whether you're talking to the police or 860 00:47:25,180 --> 00:47:21,680 your mom you just wrecked the car and 861 00:47:30,460 --> 00:47:25,190 you got to concoct some story whatever 862 00:47:34,030 --> 00:47:30,470 it is you're gonna stay basic you're 863 00:47:37,950 --> 00:47:34,040 gonna say keep it simple you have to you 864 00:47:42,670 --> 00:47:37,960 just have to I've said it on this show 865 00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:42,680 many many times the truth is in the 866 00:47:50,980 --> 00:47:47,110 details the truth is in the details and 867 00:47:53,950 --> 00:47:50,990 if you are telling the truth you can 868 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:53,960 literally get down to the most minut 869 00:48:00,670 --> 00:47:57,050 detail of anything that you are trying 870 00:48:02,530 --> 00:48:00,680 to explain from the car that is passing 871 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:02,540 to your left to the clothes that you 872 00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:04,850 have on to what the person is wearing to 873 00:48:09,730 --> 00:48:06,560 your right is it sunny 874 00:48:11,050 --> 00:48:09,740 is it cloudy are you cold are you warm 875 00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:11,060 how much money is in your pocket 876 00:48:14,980 --> 00:48:13,190 whatever detail you need for that moment 877 00:48:20,590 --> 00:48:14,990 that because it's the truth you can 878 00:48:24,430 --> 00:48:20,600 immediately grab so when John Titor is 879 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:24,440 posting these kind of details in his 880 00:48:31,630 --> 00:48:28,010 post that's what causes everybody to 881 00:48:36,310 --> 00:48:31,640 pause for a second and think to 882 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:36,320 themselves hey you know what this guy it 883 00:48:48,490 --> 00:48:41,650 reads as truth I mean it just reads 884 00:48:51,610 --> 00:48:48,500 fluidly it doesn't feel made-up but of 885 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:51,620 course it's a hoax it has to be made up 886 00:48:59,380 --> 00:48:56,330 right what did I just say if you're 887 00:49:01,570 --> 00:48:59,390 gonna lie if you're gonna hoax you don't 888 00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:01,580 have these kind of details and this is 889 00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:04,510 just a paragraph that I just read you 890 00:49:14,530 --> 00:49:09,310 there are photographs and manuals and 891 00:49:17,710 --> 00:49:14,540 details of just doubt it is crazy how 892 00:49:20,350 --> 00:49:17,720 detailed this hoax is and how far 893 00:49:23,620 --> 00:49:20,360 somebody was willing to go to either 894 00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:23,630 hoax or if it's true then it's all 895 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:28,160 simple check out this post again I just 896 00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:29,810 find this so interesting 897 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:32,960 question earlier you said something was 898 00:49:37,780 --> 00:49:35,090 wrong with the UNIX computer code on 899 00:49:42,550 --> 00:49:37,790 your world line what's wrong with it 900 00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:42,560 his answer quote yes and with yours too 901 00:49:48,970 --> 00:49:45,680 I have to believe that there must be a 902 00:49:52,330 --> 00:49:48,980 UNIX expert out there someplace that can 903 00:49:55,180 --> 00:49:52,340 confirm that I'm not exactly sure what 904 00:49:58,180 --> 00:49:55,190 the technical issue is but I believe 905 00:50:07,210 --> 00:49:58,190 some sort of UNIX system registry stops 906 00:50:10,930 --> 00:50:07,220 in 2038 and quote and a post now going 907 00:50:14,860 --> 00:50:10,940 back to what I had just said if you're 908 00:50:17,650 --> 00:50:14,870 going to lie you can't you just don't 909 00:50:20,110 --> 00:50:17,660 have details and in this little 910 00:50:23,710 --> 00:50:20,120 paragraph that I've just read you it's 911 00:50:27,310 --> 00:50:23,720 very short but it's very telling he 912 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:27,320 doesn't give an answer here and if like 913 00:50:33,250 --> 00:50:29,450 I said if somebody is behind him if 914 00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:33,260 there's some some team of writers behind 915 00:50:40,030 --> 00:50:36,110 him telling him what to or writing these 916 00:50:41,830 --> 00:50:40,040 posts intelligently then why isn't there 917 00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:41,840 an answer here because this is one of 918 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:44,260 the easiest things to answer isn't it 919 00:50:50,140 --> 00:50:47,210 but his answer says well you know 920 00:50:52,900 --> 00:50:50,150 there's got to be a UNIX expert out 921 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:52,910 there and you know what there are and 922 00:51:01,240 --> 00:50:56,890 there was and they checked it out and 923 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:01,250 that's the crazy thing if there is think 924 00:51:06,550 --> 00:51:04,130 about what I'm saying if there is a 925 00:51:10,750 --> 00:51:06,560 computer expert in this little hoax team 926 00:51:12,190 --> 00:51:10,760 of Titor team Titor then this question 927 00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:12,200 is answered because they want to stay 928 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:13,910 factual and they want to convince us all 929 00:51:20,410 --> 00:51:16,730 that this is real but instead it's a 930 00:51:22,780 --> 00:51:20,420 vague answer it's an answer coming from 931 00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:22,790 somebody that I'm sorry but it's telling 932 00:51:30,930 --> 00:51:25,280 the truth and this is what I firmly 933 00:51:33,610 --> 00:51:30,940 believe I want it to be true oh I do and 934 00:51:35,530 --> 00:51:33,620 and before you think you know okay Jimmy 935 00:51:40,890 --> 00:51:35,540 all right Jimmy you're nuts 936 00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:40,900 they it's been 13 years now I'm waiting 937 00:51:46,750 --> 00:51:43,730 I'm waiting for somebody 938 00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:46,760 to come forward and just rip the covers 939 00:51:51,940 --> 00:51:49,910 off of this and go haha alright we've 940 00:51:54,099 --> 00:51:51,950 all been had because then you know what 941 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:54,109 great you know what it's a great story 942 00:52:00,310 --> 00:51:58,010 it will make a great movie awesome but 943 00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:00,320 it hasn't happened yet and that's why 944 00:52:05,470 --> 00:52:02,510 you're listening to fade to black I am 945 00:52:08,140 --> 00:52:05,480 your host Jimmy Church kjc are on the 946 00:52:10,090 --> 00:52:08,150 dark matter radio network we are live 947 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:10,100 from the Jaypee Motorsports Studios 948 00:52:15,730 --> 00:52:13,010 right here in Burbank California or 949 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:15,740 about John Titor when we come back one 950 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:17,930 more segment then I'm out of here back 951 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:42,440 Viveca box here and you are listening to 952 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:45,690 my boy Jimmy Church Oh Jimmy chose radio 953 00:53:17,420 --> 00:52:52,410 calm this my popular opinion reading a 954 00:53:24,979 --> 00:53:20,430 hard everybody thanks for coming in 955 00:53:31,650 --> 00:53:24,989 tonight fade to black 956 00:53:34,529 --> 00:53:31,660 I'm your host Jimmy Church kjc are on 957 00:53:36,259 --> 00:53:34,539 the dark matter radio network just love 958 00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:36,269 saying that rolls off the tongue 959 00:53:44,999 --> 00:53:41,529 dark matter radio never all right shoot 960 00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:45,009 me an email Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio 961 00:53:49,799 --> 00:53:46,569 calm follow us on Twitter Facebook 962 00:53:52,650 --> 00:53:49,809 YouTube get er done get over to the 963 00:53:55,079 --> 00:53:52,660 website spend some time there 964 00:53:58,140 --> 00:53:55,089 we've also on the website before I get 965 00:54:00,390 --> 00:53:58,150 back to John Titor on the website we've 966 00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:00,400 got some pretty cool little Easter eggs 967 00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:04,960 stashed on all of the pages and if you 968 00:54:08,609 --> 00:54:06,640 go around and you find them okay great 969 00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:08,619 cool you know it's some of its funny 970 00:54:12,329 --> 00:54:10,569 some of its cool but you got to do the 971 00:54:15,329 --> 00:54:12,339 work you got to go to the website and 972 00:54:19,380 --> 00:54:15,339 check it out and if you do figure some 973 00:54:22,170 --> 00:54:19,390 of them out there's only one way out of 974 00:54:23,729 --> 00:54:22,180 it and I will find out and it'll be 975 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:23,739 really cool and I'll respond to 976 00:54:32,579 --> 00:54:26,890 everybody that figures it out okay all 977 00:54:34,259 --> 00:54:32,589 right so now moving on John Titor how 978 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:34,269 does the John Titor saga 979 00:54:41,519 --> 00:54:38,170 end well so far it hasn't it's continued 980 00:54:44,670 --> 00:54:41,529 on for 13 years but with all of the 981 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:44,680 investigations that have and are ongoing 982 00:54:50,219 --> 00:54:47,890 by the way and certainly my own I 983 00:54:52,729 --> 00:54:50,229 mentioned earlier a series of videos on 984 00:54:55,890 --> 00:54:52,739 YouTube you can go check this out and 985 00:54:57,900 --> 00:54:55,900 there's stuff on Wikipedia too as well 986 00:54:59,880 --> 00:54:57,910 and and there's plenty of websites that 987 00:55:02,910 --> 00:54:59,890 you can go to and you can I was also a 988 00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:02,920 good resource for material is John Titor 989 00:55:06,989 --> 00:55:05,529 comm and Oliver Williams if you're 990 00:55:09,630 --> 00:55:06,999 listening I've been trying to chase you 991 00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:09,640 down Oliver we've got to get you on the 992 00:55:17,339 --> 00:55:12,609 show so we can have an official the 993 00:55:21,299 --> 00:55:17,349 return of John Titor episode alright so 994 00:55:25,380 --> 00:55:21,309 how did it end well an Italian TV show 995 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:25,390 and it was called Voyager and I still 996 00:55:30,540 --> 00:55:28,930 remember when this went down aired a 997 00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:30,550 special 998 00:55:35,190 --> 00:55:33,550 John Titor and it happened and I'm gonna 999 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:35,200 guess now I'm gonna say five or six 1000 00:55:41,730 --> 00:55:38,170 years ago and there was a private 1001 00:55:43,350 --> 00:55:41,740 detective that was involved and they are 1002 00:55:47,610 --> 00:55:43,360 going through first off they're trying 1003 00:55:49,950 --> 00:55:47,620 to find any sources of the Titor family 1004 00:55:51,420 --> 00:55:49,960 the Titor name which you should do on 1005 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:51,430 your own go and check that out that's 1006 00:55:57,390 --> 00:55:54,130 pretty interesting but also the John 1007 00:56:02,640 --> 00:55:57,400 Titor foundation now there was an 1008 00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:02,650 address that was that was dug up and it 1009 00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:05,440 was to a post office box in Kissimmee 1010 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:07,270 Florida and again there's a whole video 1011 00:56:11,550 --> 00:56:08,770 series on the net where you can check 1012 00:56:14,370 --> 00:56:11,560 this out where they actually go to I 1013 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:14,380 think to actually to post office boxes 1014 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:18,330 and they chased this down and they go to 1015 00:56:26,430 --> 00:56:22,330 some offices that are empty when they 1016 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:26,440 get there but I had supposedly belonged 1017 00:56:31,830 --> 00:56:28,090 to and I think they did not supposedly 1018 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:31,840 belong to Larry Hebert who is the 1019 00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:37,090 attorney of the Titor family or so he 1020 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:39,520 says and then he represents John teeters 1021 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:41,530 mom and if you go back and listen to 1022 00:56:46,260 --> 00:56:43,330 some of the old episodes of coast to 1023 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:46,270 coast which I invite you to do with 1024 00:56:49,890 --> 00:56:48,250 Larry haver Larry Haber's got John 1025 00:56:55,110 --> 00:56:49,900 teeters mama in the other line and does 1026 00:56:58,050 --> 00:56:55,120 this whole translation thing with his 1027 00:57:00,210 --> 00:56:58,060 mom with John teeters mom and again well 1028 00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:00,220 done if it's if it's all an act 1029 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:03,760 but anyway Larry Hebert as it turns out 1030 00:57:11,220 --> 00:57:07,570 is the CEO of a foundation with John 1031 00:57:14,220 --> 00:57:11,230 teeters name on it now Larry Hebert of 1032 00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:14,230 all things turns out to be an 1033 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:17,710 entertainment lawyer now this is where 1034 00:57:24,830 --> 00:57:19,450 everybody should just go wait wait wait 1035 00:57:27,450 --> 00:57:24,840 wait what an entertainment attorney 1036 00:57:29,730 --> 00:57:27,460 representing the family why why is that 1037 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:29,740 well he's got a whole story on how he 1038 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:31,690 got involved and how he was brought into 1039 00:57:38,550 --> 00:57:34,170 this okay all right and I'm not saying 1040 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:38,560 anything bad about Larry Hebert the 1041 00:57:44,220 --> 00:57:43,210 attorney because by all standards he's a 1042 00:57:49,650 --> 00:57:44,230 he's 1043 00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:49,660 attorney and everybody speaks well and 1044 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:52,480 highly about he's got no no shady past 1045 00:57:55,830 --> 00:57:53,530 to him 1046 00:57:58,290 --> 00:57:55,840 I just find it curious that in a 1047 00:58:02,010 --> 00:57:58,300 situation like this why is the family 1048 00:58:04,050 --> 00:58:02,020 hiring an entertainment lawyer unless 1049 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:04,060 there's something else to it not not 1050 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:08,410 anything dark but maybe maybe he's a 1051 00:58:12,750 --> 00:58:10,450 friend of a friend I mean he's got his 1052 00:58:14,250 --> 00:58:12,760 own story I'm just speculating here but 1053 00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:14,260 maybe he's a friend of a friend maybe he 1054 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:16,240 was referred maybe he's working pro bono 1055 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:19,090 maybe the teeter family's broke maybe 1056 00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:20,410 they didn't have a choice 1057 00:58:26,670 --> 00:58:23,440 maybe he approached them whatever but 1058 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:26,680 Larry Haber seems by all accounts to be 1059 00:58:32,970 --> 00:58:29,530 a stand-up guy except for there's one 1060 00:58:39,210 --> 00:58:32,980 little problem his brother Rick Haber is 1061 00:58:44,030 --> 00:58:39,220 an arleigh computer expert and again 1062 00:58:46,290 --> 00:58:44,040 I've just talked about this for Oh 1063 00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:46,300 better part maybe an hour hour and a 1064 00:58:52,410 --> 00:58:49,359 half and I've already told you I'm not 1065 00:58:55,710 --> 00:58:52,420 really a skeptic on this I am playing 1066 00:58:59,040 --> 00:58:55,720 the role of skeptic but I want to 1067 00:59:01,320 --> 00:58:59,050 believe and when you put and put this 1068 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:01,330 part of the ending to the story and not 1069 00:59:07,140 --> 00:59:03,130 an ending but where we are standing 1070 00:59:10,940 --> 00:59:07,150 today to the story it causes some issues 1071 00:59:14,099 --> 00:59:10,950 but if he's an entertainment attorney 1072 00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:14,109 and you've got a sensational story like 1073 00:59:22,070 --> 00:59:18,910 this right there in your pocket it would 1074 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:22,080 seem like any movie studio in in 1075 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:24,970 Hollywood would be chomping at the bit 1076 00:59:30,030 --> 00:59:27,850 to get this story because it would make 1077 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:30,040 a sensational movie there's no question 1078 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:31,690 about it it's got everything all 1079 00:59:36,420 --> 00:59:33,730 everything in there Anna and the thing 1080 00:59:37,740 --> 00:59:36,430 is even though if you're gonna write and 1081 00:59:39,150 --> 00:59:37,750 you're a Hollywood script writer and 1082 00:59:41,340 --> 00:59:39,160 you're gonna write a screenplay and 1083 00:59:45,390 --> 00:59:41,350 you're gonna create something like this 1084 00:59:46,650 --> 00:59:45,400 out of your own imagination kudos I mean 1085 00:59:49,020 --> 00:59:46,660 that would be an achievement but the 1086 00:59:52,220 --> 00:59:49,030 thing is you wouldn't be making it up 1087 00:59:55,410 --> 00:59:52,230 because this story is true this story 1088 00:59:57,420 --> 00:59:55,420 actually happened the post actually 1089 00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:57,430 occurred on the net art Belle did 1090 01:00:01,140 --> 00:59:58,090 receive the 1091 01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:01,150 original faxes in 1978 all the forms 1092 01:00:06,750 --> 01:00:04,000 stuff has been preserved everything has 1093 01:00:10,650 --> 01:00:06,760 been archived the photographs are real 1094 01:00:13,230 --> 01:00:10,660 out well the real pics I should say all 1095 01:00:17,070 --> 01:00:13,240 of that is real so it would seem like a 1096 01:00:19,230 --> 01:00:17,080 Hollywood production company would be 1097 01:00:21,690 --> 01:00:19,240 all over this and if you're Larry Haber 1098 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:21,700 that's the easiest thing to negotiate I 1099 01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:25,090 would think so why hasn't it happened 1100 01:00:35,340 --> 01:00:29,110 the b-movie that is out there and it's 1101 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:35,350 bad it's B it's C it's D sue me is is 1102 01:00:41,010 --> 01:00:36,450 awful 1103 01:00:43,770 --> 01:00:41,020 so Larry Haber if he and it has intended 1104 01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:43,780 to make some money off of this what I 1105 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:46,240 would have thought that there would be 1106 01:00:52,740 --> 01:00:49,210 something moving forward in a very grand 1107 01:00:55,230 --> 01:00:52,750 scale and that hasn't happened so it's a 1108 01:00:58,710 --> 01:00:55,240 just a very funny twist which again in 1109 01:01:03,240 --> 01:00:58,720 its own weird way adds the element of 1110 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:03,250 truth back into the story it's an 1111 01:01:07,860 --> 01:01:07,090 amazing story I tell you what I've got 1112 01:01:11,010 --> 01:01:07,870 to get out of here 1113 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:11,020 next week is New Year's everybody have a 1114 01:01:16,650 --> 01:01:13,450 great New Year's and have a great safe 1115 01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:16,660 weekend this weekend next Thursday 1116 01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:21,040 John Anthony West here in the studio 1117 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:22,720 well not here in the studio he's in New 1118 01:01:28,710 --> 01:01:25,570 York but we'll be coming in via Skype 1119 01:01:31,830 --> 01:01:28,720 and I'm going to try to get his video 1120 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:31,840 feed live somehow we're gonna figure out 1121 01:01:38,130 --> 01:01:34,330 a way to get that done he wants to do 1122 01:01:40,860 --> 01:01:38,140 video and as well as and he also he's 1123 01:01:44,010 --> 01:01:40,870 insisting by the way I'm doing the 1124 01:01:47,310 --> 01:01:44,020 entire three hours and I have the 1125 01:01:49,770 --> 01:01:47,320 feeling talking to John this week that I 1126 01:01:52,290 --> 01:01:49,780 only have to ask one or two questions 1127 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:52,300 and then I just kick back and then three 1128 01:01:57,540 --> 01:01:55,090 hours are his but do enjoy it that'll be 1129 01:02:00,330 --> 01:01:57,550 next Thursday I know that I said last 1130 01:02:01,590 --> 01:02:00,340 night that he would be on Wednesday I 1131 01:02:05,970 --> 01:02:01,600 did that in the air 1132 01:02:09,450 --> 01:02:05,980 forget it that okay so everybody out 1133 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:09,460 there have a great safe weekend we will 1134 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:10,690 see you next week 1135 01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:12,850 the show is produced by executive 1136 01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:16,000 producer is Rita Kumari on produced by 1137 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:19,510 Hilton Jay Paul music is by doug aldrich